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All great world-historic facts appear twice: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.

Grab some popcorn and post fascist fail. From the desperate displays of their cringey recruits, to the vicious infighting and hypocrite purity-spiraling, the dumb clown gang never fails to entertain.

About to post another neo-Nazi pedophile? We already have a thread for them! >>>/praxis/3
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>>1004
Damn the whole stadium joined in on that I thought it would just be a small group
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>>1005
Same. Plus, a quick check seems neither team is from a left-leaning area, as far as elections go. Compare that with other teams with antifascist ultras like the Celtics or St. Pauli.
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>>850
>In other (old) news, PF are being taken to court for assaulting a man in Boston last year.
Update:
>The civil judgement was based on six counts, ranging from “a private conspiracy to deny the equal protection of the laws,” to violations of the Massachusetts Civil Rights Act, to “civil assault and battery,” as well as “intentional infliction of emotional distress.” 

>The court awarded Murrell $25,000 for his bodily injuries, $500,000 for psychological distress, $230,000 for lost earnings, and imposed $2 million in punitive damages — a total $2,755,000 — plus attorneys fees. The ruling was entered as a “default judgment,” because Patriot Front failed to appear in court to contest the lawsuit. The court found that “Rousseau and Patriot Front are jointly and severally liable” for the damages.

>The judge ruled that punitive damages were “necessary to deter similar acts in the future” — reflecting that the Patriot Front’s remorseless attack had occurred at “Rousseau’s encouragement,” and that “Patriot Front and Rousseau glorified the attack” by posting a video clip of “the group pinning Murrell against the light post” to promote what the judge described as “the view that non-white individuals like Murrell should be subordinated to white people.”
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>>1022
I'm having a great time laughing at all the pathetic attempts at rationalizing it.
>mosk was really just grabbing his heart and throwing it out to us with a palm-down and straight arm haven't you ever seen someone throwing before?
>ackchually thats not a nazi salute thats a 2000 year old gesture from the ancient society nazis modeled their aesthetics on
If they want to sanewash this pathetic facade, they'd better send someone better.

oh don't worry they were waving to someone in the back row like >>995 was oops our bad

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post stupid shit said by stupid people.
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Just poll enjoyment in general. This false belief that all voting is liberating, is giving you a meaningful voice of expression.
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>>985
>pic
and I thought US federal voting was bad...
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https://x.com/JimMcMurtry01/status/1880696608809169374

lol i hate these faggots
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>>1017
Ah yes, property owners. Shed a tear for that oppressed class and their years of hardship. They bought that land fair and square, don't ya know!
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>>1017
The one thing more stupid than colonizers claiming righteousness over other immigrants is claiming it over indigenous peoples.

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The commies are infiltrating our cartoons! Those dastardly college arts majors are brainwashing the kids!
ITT we post Western mainstream media which show socialism in an unexpectedly positive light or have unusually sharp critique of capitalists.

>The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius — Krunch Time (2002)
In the opening scene, there are two clips where there is a clearly visible Soviet hammer and sickle on the label of an opened box in the background, with some unreadable text. No-one really knows why, although I can't help but notice the similarity to Jimmy's shirt design.

>The Ren & Stimpy Show — Space Dogged (1995)
The episode features Ren and Stimpy as pioneering Soviet cosmonauts. Alongside a few jabs at the USSR being a developing nation, it also ridicules US red scare paranoia and their delusion of winning the space race.

>Antz (1998)
This family film revolves around a worker ant, in crisis over their insignificance, constantly re-enforced by their ant society. They swap places with their soldier ant friend Weaver, right as the general begins to stage a coup d'état, sending soldiers units loyal to the queen on a suicide battle.
The class relations are made clear at the beginning. The protagonist complains that, despite Weaver calling the ants the ruling species [empire], he is unfulfilled and envious of the soldiers' glory. Soon, a small group of soldier ants become violent in a bar when two worker ants break conformity. Weaver steps in to defend them, leading to a large class brawl. Later, after switching places, the protagonist blunders their way into becoming a war hero and accidentally kidnapping the princess to avoid being discovered as a worker ant. When rumours of them overpowering the military guard reach the workers, Weaver points out their friend was a worker ant, and Weaver himself was a soldier. This shatters the workers' delusions of class fate, leading to the attached clip where there are explicit socialist themes in the class rebellion. The manager is also shown as an unwitting pawn of the coup plot, who later during a strike still hopelessly tries to convince striking workers to return with scare tactics about filling their quotas, and is basically told to fuck off. The coup is also specifically classist and eugenicist, with the leader of the middle soldier class plotting to assassinate the royal ruling class and genocide the 'weak' worker ants in a tunnel flood.

>My Life as a Teenage Robot (2003)
The second episode, Pest Control, is about a revolutionary lab rat, Vladimir, who leads their fellow comrades into rebellion against their abusive captor. The name, their beard, their cartoon Russian accent and the big ol' hammer and sickle on the title card make the allegory clear. While obviously taking the role of a comical villain, and despite a line or two about world domination, their portrayal is generally sympathetic with even a main hero saying they can't help feeling sorry for the rats.
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>>793
Good point. Even if Al is an entertaining stereotype character, their message is sincere, even across episodes (e.g. the scouts episode). Even the show starts to make fun of Kyle's 'gay little speeches' and the whole "I've learned something today" bit. I just felt Josh hit differently, since apart from their absurd form (a talking box) and the clueless reporter ignoring their points to ask vapid questions about them being in a box, they're not even making jokes. Josh basically shows up and then plainly presents Marxist statements for a minute with no refutation. It stretches the limits of soapboxing towards straight-up lecture.
But I feel it also stood out because they're famously seen as lolberts overall. Personal liberty (e.g. not being persecuted for gayness) is wells established in liberal ideology. Marxist theory, on the other hand...
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I think they kind of just got pigeonholed into the lolbert box because they tend to "both sides" things and that's the default "third option" in the mind of most of the US. They certainly have a bent toward "personal liberty" with their ideas but it's not like that's necessarily incompatible with communism or implies support for capitalism. Another current in the show has been satirizing brands and corporations (celebrities basically being an offshoot of that). IMO they were (maybe still are) just not really interested in committing to any political ideology.

They've portrayed other ideologies in similar detail on the show (probably most famously with scientology). You're right though that the lack of jokes at the expense of communism does sort of stand out. Maybe all the more because even with characters like Big Gay Al they still make them the butt of the joke sometimes. It's certainly interesting. One should keep in mind however that plenty of people have read communist theory and even been important revolutionary figures, only to later "betray" communism or "reveal" themselves to be phones (nobody can know for sure in most cases). In other words, just because somebody can grok the theory doesn't mean they are a genuine comrade.

That isn't really so relevant to the question of propaganda though, and a lot of people got unvarnished Marxism from that episode which is good. That's the bottom line as fa
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This can't be mere coincidence.
>>582
>/cog/
*/coc/
There is a decent amount of love for her there, despite GG being the main character.
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I somehow never learned about Dinosaurs until I found this clip in the booru. I downloaded the episode to make a higher quality version of the clip, so I watched the whole half-hour.
Season 3 Episode 3 (Network Calls) makes it clear that the show is a satire, perhaps a bit blunt with the plot at times, but also with some blunt critique of the topic, that TV networks are influential and intentionally keep citizens addicted and dumbed down, for profit, which the protagonist outright calls 'evil'. Judging by the Wikipedia page, it's not too brave to hope the rest of the show is as pointed on social issues.

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post some leftist movies/documentaries and discuss it a bit too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZf5nQWqJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWRVyaKnGcA
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>posting youtube links without titles
They're:
- The Untold History of the United States (by Oliver Stone) Episode 1: World War I, the Russian Revolution and Woodrow Wilson
- Nixon (1995): Nixon talking to CIA director Richard Helms
- V (miniseries): scene of the El Salvador resistance, before the Visitors arrive.

I haven't seen Oliver Stone's work (apart from Scarface), interestingly they apparently describe themselves as a Mill-style 'real liberal', and are a Hugo Chávez supporter and FARC enjoyer. Not sure if socialist, exactly, but certainly a strongly critical counter-narrative with influence.
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There's also comedy films in >>6 and a few sprinkled in >>163

Posting some film lists from the booru. OP you so lazy wwww

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Ban, Keep, Or Fuck White Women, Discuss: 

Personally, I think in order to own one of these dogs, I think you should have to prove that you have an advanced level of dog handling ability. They are not like normal dogs, they are very large, more powerful than many humans, and difficult to control. They are good at killing violently because they have specifically been bread this way. 

Further, there should be greater restrictions on inbreeding of dogs, causing them to be mutant killers. 

I don't think we should put loose dogs down, but if you own a dog like this and its roaming the streets no lead, big balls unchopped, it should be taken off you and you should face consequences. 

On a side note, I think dog breeding is a really good case study for why Eugenics are dumb. Always the Eugenisist has some purpose in mind, the higher being they want to create, but invariably, in breeding for this purpose, you create a mutant unfit for the world around them in some way. This is how the european royal families died off.
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As of the 31st of December the great purge has begun. 

Looks like white men are pushing back finally
Pet ownership licenses seems like a pretty reasonable standard to have as a general thing. Dangerous animals is one part of it, but so is being competent enough to actually take care of the animal. Not just in terms of training, but in terms of, like, being able to feed them properly. There's too many idiots with "vegan cats" for instance.

>Personally, I think in order to own one of these dogs, I think you should have to prove that you have an advanced level of dog handling ability.
This should just be the case in general. Tiny dogs like chihuahuas can be aggressive as fuck too, and even if they can't maul you to death, a bite can be dangerous. Not that pitbulls aren't specifically more dangerous, but it's more a thing of degree. Of course, this would be less of an issue if dog training services were more available or just education for people about how to handle animals. That goes beyond pets too, you see a lot of dumbfucks approaching wild animals or livestock with no regard for how the animal might react, like they're some Disney princess. There's an even bigger issue here with not really understanding or respecting nature as a force to be reckoned with that needs to be corrected with education, if only for public safety reasons.

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>The idealist in me says that people who would like pet animals should strive to get pets which are native to the
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All dogs should have to be on leashes in public, and you should have to be capable of handling an animal if it acts up. The only real exception to this would be assistance animals who are usually trained well enough not to need a leash (guide dogs though kind of need one to function anyway).
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>>52
Speaking of invasive species, it seems like hunting them is an opportunity for revolutionary socialists to prepare for the revolution.
>good for the local environment
>discount on food costs if it's an edible pest
>legitimate pretext for owning and training with a gun in countries where guns are restricted
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I don't know man, just looking at them is painful. 
I say pitbulls should be banned not only for the sake of people's safety, but for the sake of the domestic dog species as a whole because they suffer from enormous genetic defects (hereditary heart disease, breathing issues, high risk of cancer) as a result of the disastrous inbreeding that they were put through in dozens of generations just for the sake of making them look grotesque and giving them an aggressive behavior.

Ban, implement mandatory neutering to extinguish the breed, or on the other hand outbreed them with other kinds of dogs. That's the three ways I see out of the pitbull problem.

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I'm surprised I didn't check for this: Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan interviewed a Free Luigi Rally.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iFAKkquGTxs
>something of a communist Kyle Rittenhouse
Heh, looks like we did make an impact.
This guy's slip-up is pretty funny:
>I keep hearing about everybody suffering from the self- uh, the healthcare system.
I mean, it sounds like a self-care system to me. New meme.

The interview with the manifesto leaker has a few interesting points, and it sounds to me that this condescending attitude described, that news about Luigi is dangerous, could be an experienced perspective based on the media belief that they manipulate the malleable minds of the public at large, or on the other hand it could be a visceral fear of a 'dangerous idea'.

To what degree do we also see this effect with far-right terrorism, like Tarrant? For what it's worth, I don't recall their manifesto or shooting footage being widespread in the mainstream either.
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>1000th post on /social/
This community has become a comfy little (for lack of a better word) bunker. While it is still small, I really like that it has encouraged OC instead of becoming just another chat forum.
Hopefully this spark can spread, but for now, it's enough to bring a smile.
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Hey South East Asia, whatcha doin-

oh
US president-elect Trump is talking about expansion into Canada, Greenland and Panama. For the sake of discussion, let's take it seriously.
Firstly, I wonder if their winter warfare will be much better than Nazi Germany's, but also, if they can't just win by threatening, it will open up war on even more fronts. There are open wars in the Middle East and in Ukraine. Can they afford to open up any more fronts? Will they abandon any of the Asian Pacific? Would this trigger a wave similar to the independence movements of colonies after WWII?
Plus, in case it needs saying, Greenland and Canada are 'white' countries, and Canada is one of the US's closest allies, including as a military and intelligence partner. They would make for a horrible enemy. If you thought Vietnam was an unpopular war, Canada would be far worse.

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This is a thread for discussing the reactions to the assassination of UHC CEO 🍀Brian Thompson🍀, our part in them, and how we as socialists can learn from this and prepare agitprop tactics for the next foreseeable happenings.
This is not a chat thread about the assassination itself, or for debating the merits of this kind of action. That is off-topic and should go in its own thread.
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The assassination of Brian Thompson specifically may have been surprising news, but the assassination of key public figures in a widely despised industry is hardly unpredictable, just like the dozens of presidential assassination attempts over the past few terms. A sentiment I saw often was "this was inevitable".
An interesting aspect of this event was the relative popularity of support and praise for the assassination, contrasted against the out-of-touch widespread mass media denouncement of it (including alt-right figures like Ben Shapiro). It also heightened the visibility of liberalist moralist anti-violence ideology, which has now moved the needle from "Is it OK to Punch a Nazi?" to "Is it Justifiable to Assassinate Porkies?". Regardless of whether the assassination was 'good praxis' or whatever, it's ultimately an event with huge potential for anti-capitalist and anti-liberalist, socialist agitprop. And that's something this site should be interested in, as part of its intended purpose.

Some starting points for discussion:
- What do you wish was different about the socialist reactions to the assassination?
- What agitprop did you engage in?
- What resources would you have found helpful?
 _ e.g. a socialist-focused meme generator like https://georapbox.github.io/meme-generator/ or https://perguto.github.io/Meme-It/ ?
 _ Any copypastas/FAQs? (responses to common bad takes like "he was a bad man but all killing is wrong", "the tzar had a wife and kids")
- The assassin was probably not a socialist, and this was still the likely case before their alleged identity was revealed - is there any problem with pretending they were a socialist for the sake of promoting socialist ideas? What if they had turned out to be a dumb nazi whining about socialism and jews?
- What other happenings are foreseeable? Financial crashes, presidential assassinations, any others? It wouldn't be hard to pre-prepare some general meme templates for these.

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Every few years, the USA has a big 'black civilian killed by cops' moment, like with Eric Garner, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, although such killih s happen constantly. That's an inevitable event.
>>963 (OP) 
>- What resources would you have found helpful?
> _ e.g. a socialist-focused meme generator like https://georapbox.github.io/meme-generator/ or https://perguto.github.io/Meme-It/ ?
With phoneposting becoming so normal, I wonder if these kind of tools would help bring better meme creation to more people instead of just those who learn to use image editors like Krita/Photoshop/GIMP. But personally I wouldn't know.

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Ĉu vi volas lerni esperanton?

FAQ

https://loganhall.net/eo/faq-en.html

A summary of the language from the above page:

 Esperanto is a constructed language, i.e. someone sat down and invented it — L. L. Zamenhof, a Jewish optometrist and polyglot born in an area of Russia which is now Poland. He believed the world could be united through a common, international auxiliary language (IAL), which should be politically- and culturally-neutral before people would willingly adopt it. He decided no good candidate language existed, so set out to invent a new one, ultimately based on his knowledge of Russian, Yiddish (natively spoken); Polish, German, French, Hebrew, Belarusian, English, Volapük (acquired); and Latin, Greek, Aramaic (studied academically).

Zamenhof began work on his international language no later than 1878, and first publicized it in 1887 under the pseudonym Dr. Esperanto ("Dr. Hopeful", lit. one who hopes). Having not named it anything other than "the international language", it came to be known itself as "Esperanto". Zamenhof with the earliest adopters of this proposal continued to translate works, publish journals, and refine the language, culminating in the first all-Esperanto meetup in 1905 — the Universal Congress, held that year in Boulogne-sur-
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Saluton! I've never dedicated time to learning non-English languages, but conlangs fascinate me.
It's nice to know that Esperanto was legitimately useful in cases like displaced refugees in post-war Europe.
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>>990 (OP) 
>And today, one of the fastest growing regions of speakers is China, where the language is given state support.
This is refreshing to hear, given the language's rough history even under communist governments. I just assumed that the language's European basis would make it less interesting to Asian comrades after the global domination of the English language.
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>>991
Indeed. Fun fact about the right's favorite boogeyman, George Soros: Soros is a native Esperanto speaker. His last name is even an Esperanto word. Sori, "to soar" in English, then becomes "will soar" when the -os suffix is applied. Soros is one example of just such a refugee, he got his start after the war in London while staying in housing provided by the London Esperanto Association.

I agree that conlangs are fascinating. What conlangs are you interested in?

>>992
I agree, it is refreshing to see. Though it is much discussed in the west, the European origin of Esperanto's root vocabulary doesn't seem to be a significant barrier for people coming from non-Indo-european languages. Cuba also materially supports it's Esperanto movement, there is no better illustration of that than the Esperanto language time slot on Radio Havana Cuba:
https://www.radiohc.cu/eo/podcasts
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>>993
I find the idea of logical spoken languages to be interesting, given the illogical chaotic mess of languages like English. I wonder if discussions in the language play out differently, as there's hopefully less ambiguity and misinterpretation. That said, I haven't given any of them a deep dive.

>Cuba also materially supports it's Esperanto movement, there is no better illustration of that than the Esperanto language time slot on Radio Havana Cuba
I didn't know about this either, great to hear.

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Resources
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>>922
>every single day
Recovery time is important, so I would assume the second is better because at least each focus group gets more time to repair. But you might want to check that with a search, it sounds like a common enough question that an expert would have answered somewhere.
Getting to a routine of daily pushups until I sort out a proper lifting schedule which will complement my other sports. It's not much, but it will do for now.
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Fitness goals: https://lefty.pictures/post/view/23083
Started going to the gym for about 6 months and I'm feeling great, but I'm focusing more on strength and aerobic trainings. I'm not that interested in turning into a bloated protein balloon that has little to no physical endurance.
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>>988
>I'm not that interested in turning into a bloated protein balloon that has little to no physical endurance.
Lots of people aren't interest in that either. There's a huge gap between reasonable athletic fitness and the absurd bodybuilder physique, people don't become that by accident.
>Started going to the gym for about 6 months and I'm feeling great
Excellent to hear, comrade!

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