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>Blowback
Seasons are ten episodes long, each one diving into a different US intervention, what led up to it, and its ongoing effects. An excellent podcast, highly recommend.
Season 1: Gulf War (Saddam good!) and Iraq War (Saddam bad!)
Season 2: Cuban Revolution
Season 3: Korean War
Season 4: Afghanistan (Operation Cyclone, Soviet-Afghan War, formation of al-Qaeda, September 11 attacks)
I'm sure everyone here knows that the US were horrible in these conflicts, but it's different to know in detail, even in the modern Iraq conflicts, how much intentional, strategic harm to citizens was carried out by US forces.

>>72 (OP) 
>Eyes Left
I remember hearing about that podcast because the other host is Spenser Rapone. Picrel.

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I have to rest my eyes for the next few days, so this thread will be great for me.

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Just listened to the first episode of Eyes Left, it's great stuff. It's always interesting to hear unique first-hand perspectives that show much more than the typical high-level overviews you can find in regular books and articles, to learn about just how unbelievably disorganised, arrogant and apathetic the early Iraq War military was to their own soldiers, and about the interrogations. Everyone can point to something like Abu Ghraib full of clear sociopaths in their niche, maybe even Stanford prison experiment and the Milgram experiment, but it's different to hear what happened when a bunch of regular recruits were tasked with interrogating (torturing) dozens and dozens of citizens.
I also appreciate the wide range of cover thumbnails they put on the Soundcloud episodes. Culture jamming is my jam, yo.

>>73
oh yeh that would have been a good image to include, his contributions are great.

>>72 (OP) 
>TrueAnon
The episodes about the troubled teen industry recently were insightful. It's 5 episodes called "The Game" and focuses on one particular example of the industry where one of the hosts was sent as a teenager. It's not extremely relevant but it provides insight into the depravity of burger psychosis. The topic has been getting a bit of a resurgence since a lot of people who went there are now adults, and the people who committed abuses there are generally the same milieu fearmongering about "groomers" and other Satanic Panic type hysteria.

>>73
About halfway through the latest Blowback season, after binging it. Feel like this is good material for educating laypeople about recent imperialist history. The Korean War season is particularly important since so many westerners fully buy the line that North Korea is "just like that."

>>96
>The Korean War season is particularly important since so many westerners fully buy the line that North Korea is "just like that."
And that South Korea and USA were just innocent forces of democracy invaded by the expanding commies.

The whole series is effectively a debunk of the 'exporting democracy' justification.

>>96
yeh the finklestein episodes are really good as well. Its not like there isn't gems in there, just that they are fewer and further these days

>>96
>The episodes about the troubled teen industry recently were insightful. It's 5 episodes called "The Game" and focuses on one particular example of the industry where one of the hosts was sent as a teenager. It's not extremely relevant but it provides insight into the depravity of burger psychosis.
Gave them a listen yesterday, it's shocking. There's some other interesting stuff about it, like showing how some cults evolve out of sincere projects, as well as how they integrate themselves into liberal democracy as a part of the bourgeois, and into education and law enforcement systems. Cults and child abuse industries are often forgotten when discussing the bourgeois.
I also noticed how it was another element of the burger psychosis which I didn't know about. I don't mean this in some nationalist anti-burger prejudice, however people in the USA do face a range of unique systematic education issues which distinguish them even from their closest allies and I'm curious to learn what they are and how they came to be (in a bit more detail than just 'super-capitalism!')
>The topic has been getting a bit of a resurgence since a lot of people who went there are now adults
Some famous people have said they were sent to those places, including various artists with followings but also big-name socialites like Paris Hilton who says they ran from CEDU, then from two others before ending up in Provo Canyon.

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>>96
>The episodes about the troubled teen industry recently were insightful. It's 5 episodes called "The Game"
When I listened to this, I read some Wikipedia articles alongside it and learned of an interesting connection. Cesar Chavez, the leader of the United Farm Workers (that labour union with the worst possible flag choice).
Chavez was inspired by Synanon in 1977 and tried to reform the union into a communal movement of volunteer labour. They started playing "the Game" twice a week, and other culty stuff started showing up. Synanon's leader got pretty close, they even provided the UFW with $100,000 worth of cars and materials. This all came to an end after Synanon got raided and their violence was exposed, the Peoples Temple's mass suicide at Jonestown, and a press release comparing the UFW to the Peoples Temple. After that, senior members overruled Chavez and stopped all the cult stuff.

Don't let your orgs become a cult, comrades.

I've only listened to a couple of Eyes Left Wake-ups episodes, there seems to be a common theme of getting a civilian therapist who just openly says 'alright I'll help you get out of the military'.
The SSG Evan Brown episode has an interesting little snippet of involvement in a (failed) anti-China COVID psyop in Thailand. Also the part starting at 1:18:40 leads up to a hearty laugh.

>>96
That reminded me of the study On Being Sane in Insane Places (aka Rosenhan experiment), where a psychiatrist got participants to feign hallucinations to get admitted, and then just act completely normal, flush their meds and take notes afterwards. The fellow patients were pretty good at suspecting they were journalists or otherwise fake, while the staff didn't suspect a thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment

>>135
Yeah, the Evan Brown episode is definitely worth checking out. They had first-hand experience in higher ranks than most anti-war vets I've seen, so their stories are pretty insightful about interesting stuff like covert ops work, seeing the kind of stuff the US is doing in allied countries.

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>>135
The episode on Erica Gordon was mindblowing. They have people performing naval blockades without even knowing why they're there or what they're doing.

>>188
For real, it's disturbing. I understand why they'd avoid telling personnel why they're there (because it's horrifying to anyone who bought into the democracy & good guys meme) but then a vet goes home and learns they were conned into helping kill a huge number of civilians. It's no wonder they get PTSD and suicidal tendencies. Even if it weren't for the fact that this nerdy navy technician is seeing hundreds of dead and dying, even without that, just learning that you've directly helped produce mass suffering is enough to traumatise any person with a conscience.

>>73
I wonder what the next season of Blowback will be. Maybe Africa or South America will get a season before Vietnam does.

Just started listening to Subliminal Jihad, they tend to go on yuuuuge tangents, but if you can pay attention the info is solid the research very deep and the viewpoint good. 

Just done some episodes looking at Ottoman Palestine which is pretty interesting and also obviously topical

>>218
it's a bit 2fringe4me, i can't get into it

>>199
There's definitely been a focus on America's wars (rather than coups and other clandestine actions) so Vietnam is the obvious candidate.

>>274
It is time my lad, to explore the fringes. 

They tend to beef a lot with other podcasters which is kind of annoying, but there is a lot of good info there

>>288
>They tend to beef a lot with other podcasters which is kind of annoying
I've never enjoyed political e-drama, I just can't understand why someone would come home from work and want to listen to other strangers' drama.

>>291
not on the actual cast, more on twitter. In that sphere of podcasts its like a certain group that basically do a lot of calling other spheres sus... in fairness... some of them are sus. 

Thing is though, unless you are on the higher level, like you have a great amount of knowledge, which is the sphere calling people sus, then you can still learn things from the lower sphere (the sus ones) even if some of what they say may be sus, its still better than mainstream news. 

For me, the sus tier brought me into the higher tier, so in the end, was it really sus?

>>296
>Thing is though, unless you are on the higher level, like you have a great amount of knowledge, which is the sphere calling people sus, then you can still learn things from the lower sphere (the sus ones) even if some of what they say may be sus, its still better than mainstream news.
For sure, there are overlapping spheres, some people will call it a pipeline. I was brought up in a very liberal environment and wasn't ready to jump directly to spooky scary socialism without progressing through some spheres, and even a couple of sus spheres. And I guess with podcasts/tubes, and I guess communities, an effective way to break the inertia and pull people into other spheres is to jump in and critisise another. Whether it's through 'debates', raids, random social media flaming, whatever kind of agitation you choose, it gives people exposure to another sphere.

Sadly, programmed to chill is no more. Guy randomly bailed off the entire internet. Sucks cos he was a chad

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Marxism Today's about to POP OFF
They're back as seemingly a new super-team, adding three new people to the project (which is already organized as a workers cooperative digital media unit fyi) 
One of the new branches will be as a podcast
https://youtu.be/ijR81r-YgBg
https://vid.lilay.dev/watch?v=ijR81r-YgBg

>>366
Looks like they have a nice range of comrades internationally, some solid speaking skills and nifty editing on the video side. Should be an interesting podcast.

>>73
>>199
Season 5 was announced a while ago, expected to drop soon and it might get a little spicy.
Cambodia

>Programmed to Chill
If you want a mindfuck listen to an episode of the Nazi podcast The Absolute State of White Nationalism with Housejeep on it and then go back and listen to JFG. They sound identical down to vocal tics and stock phrases, JFG's voice is just deeper. But he says on the Wendy Painting ep that he uses a voice modulator.

>>537
>Nazi infighting podcast
lol. I don't have the time to dive but there ought to be be some spicy stuff. I'm giving the Patriot Front one a skim (far too much repetitive joking to listen to the whole thing) and there's some juicy stuff:
>stopped allowing teenagers due to a 'homosexual femboy' fiasco
>stopped allowing women when two of three snitched (one of them cheating on a member)
>were at one point majority ex-military (allegedly 60%) before the military folk were soon burnt out by enforced activism schedule or disillusioned
>intentionally did some of their flash actions at 6 in the morning to avoid police and antifas
>some incompetent fucker organized an action in Bunker Hill (?), Colorado, an 'antifa hive' where apparently the entire neighborhood is antifa, and one of the PF members almost got hit by a train due to the colossal tactical failure
>the phrase 'spent the money on drugs' appears, bingo!
>leader is a 'trust fund kid'
>"but I will also say that our movement also does attract some of the worst fucking people" (2:22:10)
But apart from just laughing, there are occasional bits of tactical intelligence in there, and while the speaker is obviously biased I believe them on this, almost all coming from the ex-military members. And that's a real part of why post-WWI fascism was so dangerous and why post-WWII BUF got BTFO by the '43 Group. The military (sometimes) teaches people relevant skills, like physical training and engagement tactics. We don't have a big war yet, but even now the trickle of ex-military may just shape the fascist movements more through active clubs. That's why I root for communist and anarchist ex-military trying to pull them our way.

>>538
Patriot Front specifically is imo too much of a mess and their optics are too weird a mashup of the most unappealing parts of zoomer and boomer rightism to go anywhere big. But yeah ex mil in fascism is worrying and it makes the Maoist moralizing about how every Amerikkkan kkkrakkka to ever be a soldier is a demon ghoul who deserves slow death and mental torture way more annoying. If the left could soak up more prole ex-military that would be excellent. 

I am serious about JFG/Housejeep potentially being the same guy though, I think it's very possible. There's even a part in one of the earlier eps where another host who eventually left TASOWN over beef with Housejeep asks him whether he's been on a podcast before and HJ takes way too long to respond and says no in an annoyed voice. There's only maybe like a month of overlap between PTC existing and Housejeep being on TASOWN too, Jimmy quit pretty quickly after that point. And the pod was taking some subtly or not so subtly fashy turns before that, his series on the Franklin Scandal was about how Frankist Jews did it. And then the cryptic twitter thread where he alludes to being elsewhere and ends with a warning about Strasserites, a topic he hadn't even touched on the pod?

*being known from elsewhere

The last thing he did on twitter before he quit was try to fedjacket Castro too lmao, forgot about that

>>539
>the Maoist moralizing about how every Amerikkkan kkkrakkka to ever be a soldier is a demon ghoul who deserves slow death and mental torture
I've heard about these types, but fortunately never seen them in person. Luckily my org is generally pragmatic and works with other groups like fossil fuel workers and the left wings of electoral parties splitting over the Palestine issue, who get heckled and booed by the designated shithead org.

>>541
>Castro
I'm not in the podcast/grifter scene so I'm guessing you don't mean Fidel Castro? I've heard the claim he received financial aid from the CIA in the 1950s for the July 26th movement, but it clearly didn't influence him or make him a US asset while leading. Hell, if Castro truly did scam the CIA, it would help explain why there were so many assassination attempts.

>>542
I doubt they do much irl, that kind of thing is the end product of taking way too many blackpills.

I do mean Fidel. I forget what the substance of the claims was but the overall message of his second to last twitter thread was that Fidel glows but is still kinda based just be skeptical guys okay? It was something tying him to South American Nazi networks or that was part of it, the Strasserism warning in his quitting thread was kind of an expansion on that. Pretty weird to do right before leaving out of nowhere with a bunch of cryptic tweets about how you're known from other places and your podcast was some kind of experiment. The Subliminal Jihad guys who he was tight with are also strange. Besides being on nihilistic levels of irony at all times and the white Muslim larp "Khalid"'s grandfather worked with Wild Bill Donovan and he's recommended Guenon a few times.
>I'm not in the podcast/grifter scene
You are missing exactly nothing of importance by not being in it lol. Some of the parapolitics pods are pretty cool in a historical sense and I'm a freak who finds the drama fun but it's meaningless entertainment.

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>>543
It's pretty funny saying a country's leader 'glows'.

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>>444
Sept 20th.

>>545
>Cambodia
It's not as if their previous seasons didn't scare the hoes, but this could get spooky.

>>545
Very nice. I've been hoping for a deep dive into the Khmer Rouge since Proles of the Roundtable said they'd do one (and then they collapsed).

>>584
>Proles of the Roundtable
I haven't looked into them, do you recc?

>>545
One more week. How do you think they'll approach the Cambodia/Vietnam/China situation?

>>545
Aw shit this should be spicy.