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>>45 (OP) 
The whole bush Dynasty is one of the most evil in the world. Bush SR was involved in a lot of stuff in Iraq early on in the 90s, specifically the first gulf war, which was in many respects even dirtier than the later ones. Even though they were all dirty. 

He also presided over the invasion and bombing of Panana under Manuel Noreiga, Noriega having previously been classically CIA couped into power, only to then be taken out of power. (the same is true of Iraq by the way, the CIA supported Saddam get into power, only to then invade later on when he started to nationalise things) 

He was also responsible for NAFTA, which was a "free trade deal" which basically fucked over Mexico in terms of tariffs etc

Now, Prescott bush, his pappy and grandpappy of George Bush the younger was involved with "the business plot" which was a literal fascist coup attempt by business leaders in the US. The plot was uncovered by smedley butler, the most decorated US Soldier ever. - On butler he is hailed by many as a hero and perhaps he is, but also, he himself was a general presiding over the destruction of central America, and even this guy baulked at the thought of Bush Sr Sr in power

>how bad was bush sr ?
Director of Central Intelligence

That's how bad we're talking.

<wikipedia> In January 1976, Ford brought Bush back to Washington to become the Director of Central Intelligence, placing him in charge of the CIA. In the aftermath of the Watergate scandal and the Vietnam War, the CIA's reputation had been damaged for its role in various covert operations. Bush was tasked with restoring the agency's morale and public reputation. During Bush's year in charge of the CIA, the U.S. national security apparatus actively supported Operation Condor operations and right-wing military dictatorships in Latin America.

So i've been reading a book which goes into how dirty bush was. He was insanely dirty. Involved with the mafia, the book claims that Jeb Bush directly trafficked cocaine

>>349
Please crack.

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>>48
Young people can learn quickly that Reagan was an actor and Bush Jr. was a sequel, but it's pretty surprising to see Bush Sr. was in charge of the CIA. And I definitely didn't know about Prescott Bush. What the hell.
From https://www.democracynow.org/2022/1/26/jonathan_katz_book_gangsters_of_capitalism:
>JUAN GONZÁLEZ: And, Jonathan, didn’t [Smedley] Butler also claim, in addition to these corporate leaders, that there were folks like Prescott Bush involved in this, the father of George Herbert Walker Bush and grandfather of George W. Bush?
>JONATHAN KATZ: So, there’s actually a kind of a game of broken telephone going on with his name being involved in this. So, Bush was actually — Prescott Bush was actually too much involved with the actual Nazi Party in Germany to be involved with the business plot.
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>And because Brown Brothers was part of a separate investigation, they end up sort of in the same folder at the National Archives, and then it ends up sort of getting mixed up in a documentary that came out about 10 years ago. So that’s actually a misunderstanding. Butler never brought up Prescott Bush’s name. But it was because Prescott Bush was too involved with the actual Nazis to be involved with something that was so homegrown as the business plot.
(My guess is they're referring to the Union Banking Corporation Bush founded, and Fritz Thyssen, an early supporter of Adolf Hitler and financier of the Nazi Party)

On the one hand there are specific things H.W. did that you can single him out for, like the Gulf War. On the other, it was in the last analysis mainly a continuation of the new order that had already been established. As a person (vs an administration), Bush Sr. was of course a gigaspook who got up to all kind of evil shit in his career. So in that sense he's way worse than his son or Trump for instance. You can also blame him personally for both Dubya and Jeb!, since they both came from his balls and were propped up by his clout. If you want to get a little more tinfoily (but not that much tbh), you could point to H.W. as the moment where the "deep state" assumed direct control of the presidency. Probably a lot of stuff that's not public info happened when the head of the CIA got elected POTUS.

>>664
>If you want to get a little more tinfoily (but not that much tbh), you could point to H.W. as the moment where the "deep state" assumed direct control of the presidency. Probably a lot of stuff that's not public info happened when the head of the CIA got elected POTUS.
We get all the collective amnesia in the news about how Putin was a former intelligence officer, and yes it is true and relevant, but then we notice it was the same for Bush Sr..